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a425couple
2024-03-28 18:01:34 UTC
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Big question, is the Russian FSB already so overwhelmed........?

Izzy Luggs
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Former Sergeant at 212th Field Artillery Brigade (1973–1981)Mon
Monday - 24 March 2024 - 08:52 USMT

By uploading videos and photographs of Muslim terrorists being beaten to
a pulp and one having his ear cut off, the Russian FSB has managed in
their brilliance to open a second front in Russia’s war efforts.

As of this morning ISIS issued a formal declaration of war against
Russia and personally swore to kill Vladimir Putin. Ironically enough,
the declaration emanated from one of Russia’s staunchest backers and
major supplier of drones - Iran.

A friend in St. Petersburg sent along a digital copy of a paper flyer
magically appearing on the streets of their city and Moscow this
morning. It’s also been posted to Telegram.

It’s going to be damned difficult for the Kremlin to successfully wage
war while suicide bombers are blowing up Russian cities.

Scott Jenkins
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If its only putin and his twisted government targeted then great but
unfortunately its the citizens that will suffer most. If the response
times go the most recent then they are screwed. A homing pigeon with a
broken wing could have responded faster.

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James Carey
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“ . . . its the citizens that will suffer most.”

The Russian people need to join the Russian resistance so that they can
defend them and be able to arm and defend themselves. They can fight
both the tyrant (Putin) and the terrorists (ISIS). At least that way,
instead of being just sitting ducks, if they go down at least they’ll
know that they will have to go down swinging.

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John Svegroth
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That's the price you have to pay for being clinically apolitical.

That's the price you have to pay for being clinically apolitical.

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Tamaiva Tuavera
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Mr Scott Jenkins have you forgotten what Russia is doing to the citizens
of Ukraine and you feel sorry for the Russian citizens. I say to the
terrorists….keep it up.

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Dave Charles
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The Russian police are too busy following around and arresting people
for putting flowers on Navalny’s grave and holding up anti-war signs.

The citizens put up with their government without any resistance. Putin
has brought chaos, death, and economic ruin but they keep supporting him.

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Michael Grambauer
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only if it was flying backwards.

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Louis Keep
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What I love is how tough guys think that stuff like due process, war
crime trials and the Geneva convention makes militaries soft… It's the
absolute opposite - it's harder NOT to brutally kick the shit out of
your prisoner or simply slot them there and then or disappear them into
a system of death camps - that's the easy way.

And the kicker is is that the nice way works. People who are treated
nicely generally reciprocate. And people treated horribly again
reciprocate. And now by treating people horribly the FSB have simply
made martyrs of their prisoners and inspired others towards revenge.

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Fritz Wuethrich
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Yes, in violent agreement.

It requires the homo sapient big brain to work first before the
small/old brain. That's tough for most who live violence day-to-day

Henriikka Keskinen
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It's fair to say that things are getting out of control.

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Paul Harvey
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An understatement a British person can truly appreciate.

Perfect.

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Zuricrq Satlz
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Whatever ru has put in, they will get back.

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Jim
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The enemy of my enemy is still my enemy

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Chris Paxton
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Anything bad that happens in ruzzia now is down to Putin.

He has been targeting the wrong people for the last couple of years, and
throwing away ruzzia's resources.

Now his forces are stretched to the limit and ISIS have decided they are
weak enough to have a go.

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Roman Mikolaevna
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Chris, they are not stretched to the limit. The limit was during
Stalingrad, where they came out on top, and then defeated Japan in lower
Manchuria. They aren't even attacking in earnest in Ukraine, and
certainly not with all their power. However, they are MOVING towards
that, and that's something the rest of the world should take into
consideration. I mean, they still have more nukes than any other
country, even if half don't work. They could literally end humanity with
the press of a button. Let's try to not forget that as I would like to
see my daughters grow up.

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David Peters
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They moved most of their Ground Forces into Ukraine and have lost the
majority (around 60%) of their equipment in various categories including
armoured vehicles.

Remember, there are long borders to protect from countries with better
historical claims than Russia has to Ukraine. And now, they have to
defend all the cities and towns from IS attacks because those guys will
not give up and will not be deterred by a few armed militias.

In Ukraine mobilising more cucumbers for mass attacks with basic
infantry weapons is of course an option.

But they have given it a try and found that attacking their neighbour
and dominating them is not so easy.

The fascists have been shamed and have acted like you would expect,
doubling down.

They have now grabbed some Muslim construction workers for torture and
confessions to link them to Ukraine.

Apparently Ukraine was going to open a 1 hour window for them to pass
through. This suggests (once youvhave stopped laughing) there are no
Russian Ground Forces on that road or area. Wow, the average citizen
must be scared if Ukrainians can just walk through Russia!

An absolute mess over which Putin presides, the clown dismissed the
attack warnings because powerful fascists do not heed warnings, they
ridicule the Warner as being weak and then there is a big explosion.
This is a bad movie dictator tactic.

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Roman Mikolaevna
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“They lost about 60% of their equipment" This is where I stopped reading
your uninformed comment David. Let me guess, another typical American
who has never stepped foot in Eastern Europe before but knows more about
Russian logistics and resources than Russians? Let me guess, you are
married to a Rus…
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David W
Roman you should have kept reading you may have learned something. Is it
certain Russia would have defeated Germany on the Eastern front without
the vast quantity of Allied materiel supplied to them? Also if what you
say is accurate why has Putin held back so much of his offensive ability
in Ukraine so far? Is it because he is being compassionate or
statesmanlike? What do you propose is the reason for holding back so
much, and when will he start to deploy all this unused military resource?
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MR FAFO
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They had all of Ukraine on their side.

Roman Mikolaevna
Lol. All of Ukraine.. on Russia's side… you are being serious right?
a425couple
2024-03-31 19:51:29 UTC
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Big question, is the Russian FSB already so overwhelmed........?
Izzy Luggs
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Former Sergeant at 212th Field Artillery Brigade (1973–1981)Mon
Monday - 24 March 2024 - 08:52 USMT
By uploading videos and photographs of Muslim terrorists being beaten to
a pulp and one having his ear cut off, the Russian FSB has managed in
their brilliance to open a second front in Russia’s war efforts.
a kind of similar Quora

Tomaž Vargazon
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What is the probability that ISIS is simply stealing credit for the
terribly deadly Moscow terrorist attack?
Not zero, but rather low. I think the official version of events -
Islamic terrorists struck a Moscow venue and caught the regime off guard
- is correct.

Here's why it almost certainly wasn't an FSB false flag: Putin went
missing for almost 24 hours. He gave no speech, no statement, just his
press representative wished the injured a speedy recovery. He was AWOL
in other words. The only explanation is he bailed immediately to a safe
location and stayed in his bunker until it was safe to come out. If it
were a false flag Putin would milk it for all it's worth, projecting an
image of courage and strength. We certainly wouldn't see the image of a
frightened old man, running.

Ukranians being behind the attack is even more ludicrous. They had
nothing to gain by attacking Russian civilians and if they really wanted
to do something like that they have drones that can be as effective.

Therefore a group of terrorists in Russia struck a concert venue.
Something very much like that happened in 2003 in Nord Ost theatre and
the response was similarly dull. Back then most people died in a botched
attempt to end the siege. This time the responders only arrived after
perpetrators had already fled, so they at least didn't make it worse.

It has all the hallmarks of Islamic terrorism and shows in no uncertain
terms what Russian security agencies are for: suppression of internal
dissent. Anything that isn't unarmed civilians out trying to be heard is
beyond their training and capability to deal with.

They know how to beat those up though. But when it's actual bad guys
they simply fold under the pressure.

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