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Sankt Panzerfaust (aka Panzer Knight)
Has common sense!Sep 4
Where is Hamas getting the rockets it fires into Israel?
From the UN of course.
Other Palestinian Groups get their rockets from the UN too.
As a rule, the Islamist terror group Palestinian Islamic Jihad fires
most rockets, over a third, Hamas under a quarter, another 10% are fired
by Fatah (aka “The Palestinian Authority”) and the rest by smaller or
unknown actors.
The Qassam rockets were introduced in 2006 a year after Israel had
completely withdrawn and de-occupied the Gaza Strip. The rockets are
quite primitive, the UN provides most of the critical materials, Hamas
and co just assemble the parts and materials provided for free by the UN.
The bodies of the Qassam rockets are steel water pipes, supplied by the
UN and it’s donors.
The launchers simple welded steel frames made from common steel profiles
intended for buildings, supplied by the UN and it’s donors.
The propellant of the rockets is a solid mixture of sugar and fertiliser
(potassium nitrate), both of which are supplied by the UN and it’s donors.
The warhead is often filled with another fertiliser, urea nitrate, also
supplied by the UN and it’s donors. At other times ammonium nitrate
fertliser mixed TNT smuggled in via Egypt is use. The TNT is purchased
using money donated by the UN and other Donors.
The rocket consists of a steel cylinder, containing a rectangular block
of the propellant. A steel plate which forms and supports the nozzles is
then spot-welded to the base of the cylinder. The warhead consists of a
simple metal shell surrounding the explosives, and is triggered by a
fuse constructed using a simple firearm cartridge, spring and a nail.
The nail is probably also UN supplied.
The cost of the materials used for manufacturing each Qassam is up to
$1,000 per rocket, but most of the materials are actually supplied by
the UN free of charge. So to launch 10,000 rockets at Israel takes
around 10 million USD, but most of this in the form of free aid from the
UN. Given that UN has a billion dollar budget being spent on Gaza
annually, the cost of the rockets is a bagatelle.
Now, does the UN knowingly and willingly supply Hamas with the materials
to build it’s rockets?
Given what is known about the construction and materials used in these
Rockets, the UN should be aware that supplying steel piping, steel
profiles, fertiliser and sugar to Gaza will lead to rockets being made
and that these rockets will be launched at Israel.
It is impossible for the UN to not be aware of these facts.
Human Rights Watch has called the use of Qassam rockets by Hamas against
civilians and civilian targets illegal under international law.
Or more clearly a WAR CRIME.
In a 2005 statement, Human Rights Watch said that "such weapons are
therefore indiscriminate when used against targets in population
centers. The absence of Israeli military forces in the areas where
rockets have hit, as well as statements by leaders of Palestinian armed
groups that population centres were being targeted, indicate that the
armed groups deliberately attacked Israeli civilians and civilian
objects. … as the ruling authority of Gaza, Hamas is obligated to uphold
the laws of war and should appropriately punish those responsible for
serious violations".
Thanks to the generous assistance by the UN and it’s Donor Nations,
Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Hamas, Fatah and others have fired around
30,000 Rockets at Israel between Israel’s de-occupation of the Gaza
strip in 2005 and 2024 or on average over a 1,000 per year.
Thus the UN is knowingly complicit in a long running and sustained War
Crime.
It is the responsibility of the UN to ensure so-called Humanitarian
Assistance provided to Gaza is not redirected to making weapons used in
war crimes. If it cannot assure this is the case, it should not supply
humanitarian assistance.
In addition the UN and it’s Donors also supplied, free of charge
building materials used to build over 300km of concrete reinforced
tunnels where rockets are assembled, stored and ferried to the launching
points, deliberately placed next to public buildings, residential areas,
within refugee camps, next to schools and mosques.
Open Source Intel (@Osint613) on X
WATCH Hxmas released a video depicting the launch of long-range rockets
at Tel Aviv from a tent within the displaced persons camp in Khan Yunis.
https://x.com/Osint613/status/1823403406477730276
Firing of rockets is often timed so that any Israeli attempts at
targeting the launch locations to make them incapable of being used
again to fire more rockets cause maximum casualties among Gazan civilians.
The fact that tunnels and underground structures are involved mean that
Israel is forced to use large and ground penetrating bomb’s to target
the launch sites with any chance of disabling them, so fairly widespread
destruction is unavoidable.
Without the generous support from the UN these rockets and tunnels would
not exist and would not cause Israeli Air- or Artillery Strikes to
disable terror infrastructure and there would be no civilian casualties.
Thus the UN is also complicit in the killing of civilians in Gaza as a
result of the use of the weapons and terror infrastructure they sponsored.
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Hamp Maccoy
· Sep 4
With all the money that’s been donated to the Gazans over the years they
should be thriving and made something of themselves!! Buildings,,ample
food and a modern infrastructure etc etc but no,,it all goes towards
terrorist activities,,death and destruction and has been so for many
decades now!! What…
(more)
Carol E Smith
· Sep 5
Gaza have had the exact same opportunities as Israel and could’ve had it
all. A great location on the Med it would have been a much sought after
fabulous tourist destination with great hotels, restaurants, shopping
shopping malls, all manner of water based activities, a world class golf
resort etc with work , money and a good life for all but instead Hamas
and their people CHOSE the path of PURE HATRED towards Israel in their
goal to annihilate Israel and all Jews.
Meanwhile Israel has become a First World Country who are forerunners in
many fields including education, engineering, medicine, agriculture, IT,
Science, Arts but their most admirable project was devising and
implementing ways to make a previously useless desert bloom to produce
all manner of products- fruit, vegetables, flowers , cereals etc . - not
only enough to sustain themselves but also to sell across the world. All
down to intelligence and sheer hard work.
Israel also has a very successful tourist industry attracting up to 4
Million visitors every year for the rich archaeological sites and
artefacts especially pertaining to Jews and Christians.
Wonderful to walk in the footsteps of Jesus from His lowly birth in a
stable in Bethlehem to follow His teaching, preaching and many miracles
all throughout Israel culminating with His Death and Resurrection in
Jerusalem.
A beautiful country which has flourished despite being totally
surrounded by enemies and being attacked literally every day on 3 fronts.
How hard it must be to have neighbours who HATE you so much they just
can’t tolerate your existence and will do ANYTHING to wipe you off the
face of the earth.
Muslims / Arabs already have over 60 states yet they won’t PERMIT Jews
to have just ONE homeland - Their ancient Homeland where there has been
a continuous Jewish presence for 3,500 years .
While the ONLY Jewish state has flourished , only about 6/8 Muslim
countries are wealthy and only because they have lakes of oil and other
natural resources while the rest are Third World nations at best with
corrupt governments, crime rates through the roof, poverty, food
shortages etc all with one common denominator- Islam.
Gaza , as mentioned above could’ve had it all but they have no work
ethic, no pride- Israel built greenhouses and other infrastructure
including hospitals, water plants etc so that the people could grow
enough produce to sell, doing an honest days work and being proud to be
able to look after their own families , but the minute Israel left ,
everything Israel had built was pulled down, dug up in order to make
rockets to ATTACK Israel. 😡😡
Now they’d STARVE if the World didn’t feed them, they’re professional
refugees always wanting more. Their totally corrupt, incompetent
government are STEALING the AID and SELLING it for extortionate prices. 😡
They won’t help themselves, they’ve turned Gaza into a total eyesore and
death trap with 500 kms of tunnels hundreds of feet deep. This is going
to take a lot of money and a long time to correct- Hamas should be
FORCED to correct all the DAMAGE they caused using the BILLIONS which
they’ve received for years -which has gone to their leaders and their
war machine. They used CHILDREN to build tunnels and many died. Hamas
don’t care one iota about their own people.
Hamas STARTED a war on 7/10 killing innocent Israeli civilians in the
most awful ways imaginable and have killed most of their own dead
-bringing us to the brink of WW3.
IDF need to take the gloves off and go in ‘ HARD’ to Gaza/ flush out,
blow up tunnels - whatever it takes to rid them of this vile terrorist
scum. Enough is enough.
Hamas your days are NUMBERED.
Niels May
· Sep 10
Excellent post! You just “chapped some asses” and I’m sure the negative
comments that you receive will bear that out. The truth hurts but must
be stated. Thank you for your words.
Carol E Smith
· Sep 10
Thank you Niels. I’m just sick of the “ woe is me” plight of Gazans when
they’ve thrown away every single opportunity to be a beautiful,
successful place all because of the HATRED of their fellow man.
They don’t WANT peace- war is much more lucrative - all about MONEY.
The love of money is the root of ALL evil and will be their downfall.
shopping malls, all manner of water based activities, a world class golf
resort etc with work , money and a good life for all but instead Hamas
and their people CHOSE the path of PURE HATRED towards Israel in their
goal to annihilate Israel and all Jews.
Meanwhile Israel has become a First World Country who are forerunners in
many fields including education, engineering, medicine, agriculture, IT,
Science, Arts but their most admirable project was devising and
implementing ways to make a previously useless desert bloom to produce
all manner of products- fruit, vegetables, flowers , cereals etc . - not
only enough to sustain themselves but also to sell across the world. All
down to intelligence and sheer hard work.
Israel also has a very successful tourist industry attracting up to 4
Million visitors every year for the rich archaeological sites and
artefacts especially pertaining to Jews and Christians.
Wonderful to walk in the footsteps of Jesus from His lowly birth in a
stable in Bethlehem to follow His teaching, preaching and many miracles
all throughout Israel culminating with His Death and Resurrection in
Jerusalem.
A beautiful country which has flourished despite being totally
surrounded by enemies and being attacked literally every day on 3 fronts.
How hard it must be to have neighbours who HATE you so much they just
can’t tolerate your existence and will do ANYTHING to wipe you off the
face of the earth.
Muslims / Arabs already have over 60 states yet they won’t PERMIT Jews
to have just ONE homeland - Their ancient Homeland where there has been
a continuous Jewish presence for 3,500 years .
While the ONLY Jewish state has flourished , only about 6/8 Muslim
countries are wealthy and only because they have lakes of oil and other
natural resources while the rest are Third World nations at best with
corrupt governments, crime rates through the roof, poverty, food
shortages etc all with one common denominator- Islam.
Gaza , as mentioned above could’ve had it all but they have no work
ethic, no pride- Israel built greenhouses and other infrastructure
including hospitals, water plants etc so that the people could grow
enough produce to sell, doing an honest days work and being proud to be
able to look after their own families , but the minute Israel left ,
everything Israel had built was pulled down, dug up in order to make
rockets to ATTACK Israel. 😡😡
Now they’d STARVE if the World didn’t feed them, they’re professional
refugees always wanting more. Their totally corrupt, incompetent
government are STEALING the AID and SELLING it for extortionate prices. 😡
They won’t help themselves, they’ve turned Gaza into a total eyesore and
death trap with 500 kms of tunnels hundreds of feet deep. This is going
to take a lot of money and a long time to correct- Hamas should be
FORCED to correct all the DAMAGE they caused using the BILLIONS which
they’ve received for years -which has gone to their leaders and their
war machine. They used CHILDREN to build tunnels and many died. Hamas
don’t care one iota about their own people.
Hamas STARTED a war on 7/10 killing innocent Israeli civilians in the
most awful ways imaginable and have killed most of their own dead
-bringing us to the brink of WW3.
IDF need to take the gloves off and go in ‘ HARD’ to Gaza/ flush out,
blow up tunnels - whatever it takes to rid them of this vile terrorist
scum. Enough is enough.
Hamas your days are NUMBERED.
John Welch
· Sep 11
It was all there for them when the Israelis withdrew in 2005: power,
water, infrastructure, thousands of hectares of glasshouses - everything
they needed to thrive and prosper. They trashed the lot and made
themselves dependent on UNRWA. And still they plead that they are ‘victims’.
Hamp Maccoy
· Sep 11
And their “leaders” laugh all the way to the bank…with UN money of course!!
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Sankt Panzerfaust (aka Panzer Knight)
· Sep 6
Some of the comments on this post led me to post a larger overview of
all that really went on. Perhaps you will find it useful:
Do-gooders and virtue-signalling do more harm than good - on the example
of “Palestine”!
Sankt Panzerfaust (aka Panzer Knight)
Has common sense!Sep 4
Where is Hamas getting the rockets it fires into Israel?
From the UN of course.
Other Palestinian Groups get their rockets from the UN too.
As a rule, the Islamist terror group Palestinian Islamic Jihad fires
most rockets, over a third, Hamas under a quarter, another 10% are fired
by Fatah (aka “The Palestinian Authority”) and the rest by smaller or
unknown actors.
The Qassam rockets were introduced in 2006 a year after Israel had
completely withdrawn and de-occupied the Gaza Strip. The rockets are
quite primitive, the UN provides most of the critical materials, Hamas
and co just assemble the parts and materials provided for free by the UN.
The bodies of the Qassam rockets are steel water pipes, supplied by the
UN and it’s donors.
The launchers simple welded steel frames made from common steel profiles
intended for buildings, supplied by the UN and it’s donors.
The propellant of the rockets is a solid mixture of sugar and fertiliser
(potassium nitrate), both of which are supplied by the UN and it’s donors.
The warhead is often filled with another fertiliser, urea nitrate, also
supplied by the UN and it’s donors. At other times ammonium nitrate
fertliser mixed TNT smuggled in via Egypt is use. The TNT is purchased
using money donated by the UN and other Donors.
The rocket consists of a steel cylinder, containing a rectangular block
of the propellant. A steel plate which forms and supports the nozzles is
then spot-welded to the base of the cylinder. The warhead consists of a
simple metal shell surrounding the explosives, and is triggered by a
fuse constructed using a simple firearm cartridge, spring and a nail.
The nail is probably also UN supplied.
The cost of the materials used for manufacturing each Qassam is up to
$1,000 per rocket, but most of the materials are actually supplied by
the UN free of charge. So to launch 10,000 rockets at Israel takes
around 10 million USD, but most of this in the form of free aid from the
UN. Given that UN has a billion dollar budget being spent on Gaza
annually, the cost of the rockets is a bagatelle.
Now, does the UN knowingly and willingly supply Hamas with the materials
to build it’s rockets?
Given what is known about the construction and materials used in these
Rockets, the UN should be aware that supplying steel piping, steel
profiles, fertiliser and sugar to Gaza will lead to rockets being made
and that these rockets will be launched at Israel.
It is impossible for the UN to not be aware of these facts.
Human Rights Watch has called the use of Qassam rockets by Hamas against
civilians and civilian targets illegal under international law.
Or more clearly a WAR CRIME.
In a 2005 statement, Human Rights Watch said that "such weapons are
therefore indiscriminate when used against targets in population
centers. The absence of Israeli military forces in the areas where
rockets have hit, as well as statements by leaders of Palestinian armed
groups that population centres were being targeted, indicate that the
armed groups deliberately attacked Israeli civilians and civilian
objects. … as the ruling authority of Gaza, Hamas is obligated to uphold
the laws of war and should appropriately punish those responsible for
serious violations".
Thanks to the generous assistance by the UN and it’s Donor Nations,
Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Hamas, Fatah and others have fired around
30,000 Rockets at Israel between Israel’s de-occupation of the Gaza
strip in 2005 and 2024 or on average over a 1,000 per year.
Thus the UN is knowingly complicit in a long running and sustained War
Crime.
It is the responsibility of the UN to ensure so-called Humanitarian
Assistance provided to Gaza is not redirected to making weapons used in
war crimes. If it cannot assure this is the case, it should not supply
humanitarian assistance.
In addition the UN and it’s Donors also supplied, free of charge
building materials used to build over 300km of concrete reinforced
tunnels where rockets are assembled, stored and ferried to the launching
points, deliberately placed next to public buildings, residential areas,
within refugee camps, next to schools and mosques.
Open Source Intel (@Osint613) on X
WATCH Hxmas released a video depicting the launch of long-range rockets
at Tel Aviv from a tent within the displaced persons camp in Khan Yunis.
https://x.com/Osint613/status/1823403406477730276
Firing of rockets is often timed so that any Israeli attempts at
targeting the launch locations to make them incapable of being used
again to fire more rockets cause maximum casualties among Gazan civilians.
The fact that tunnels and underground structures are involved mean that
Israel is forced to use large and ground penetrating bomb’s to target
the launch sites with any chance of disabling them, so fairly widespread
destruction is unavoidable.
Without the generous support from the UN these rockets and tunnels would
not exist and would not cause Israeli Air- or Artillery Strikes to
disable terror infrastructure and there would be no civilian casualties.
Thus the UN is also complicit in the killing of civilians in Gaza as a
result of the use of the weapons and terror infrastructure they sponsored.
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59 comments from
Hamp Maccoy
and more
Hamp Maccoy
· Sep 4
With all the money that’s been donated to the Gazans over the years they
should be thriving and made something of themselves!! Buildings,,ample
food and a modern infrastructure etc etc but no,,it all goes towards
terrorist activities,,death and destruction and has been so for many
decades now!! What…
(more)
Carol E Smith
· Sep 5
Gaza have had the exact same opportunities as Israel and could’ve had it
all. A great location on the Med it would have been a much sought after
fabulous tourist destination with great hotels, restaurants, shopping
shopping malls, all manner of water based activities, a world class golf
resort etc with work , money and a good life for all but instead Hamas
and their people CHOSE the path of PURE HATRED towards Israel in their
goal to annihilate Israel and all Jews.
Meanwhile Israel has become a First World Country who are forerunners in
many fields including education, engineering, medicine, agriculture, IT,
Science, Arts but their most admirable project was devising and
implementing ways to make a previously useless desert bloom to produce
all manner of products- fruit, vegetables, flowers , cereals etc . - not
only enough to sustain themselves but also to sell across the world. All
down to intelligence and sheer hard work.
Israel also has a very successful tourist industry attracting up to 4
Million visitors every year for the rich archaeological sites and
artefacts especially pertaining to Jews and Christians.
Wonderful to walk in the footsteps of Jesus from His lowly birth in a
stable in Bethlehem to follow His teaching, preaching and many miracles
all throughout Israel culminating with His Death and Resurrection in
Jerusalem.
A beautiful country which has flourished despite being totally
surrounded by enemies and being attacked literally every day on 3 fronts.
How hard it must be to have neighbours who HATE you so much they just
can’t tolerate your existence and will do ANYTHING to wipe you off the
face of the earth.
Muslims / Arabs already have over 60 states yet they won’t PERMIT Jews
to have just ONE homeland - Their ancient Homeland where there has been
a continuous Jewish presence for 3,500 years .
While the ONLY Jewish state has flourished , only about 6/8 Muslim
countries are wealthy and only because they have lakes of oil and other
natural resources while the rest are Third World nations at best with
corrupt governments, crime rates through the roof, poverty, food
shortages etc all with one common denominator- Islam.
Gaza , as mentioned above could’ve had it all but they have no work
ethic, no pride- Israel built greenhouses and other infrastructure
including hospitals, water plants etc so that the people could grow
enough produce to sell, doing an honest days work and being proud to be
able to look after their own families , but the minute Israel left ,
everything Israel had built was pulled down, dug up in order to make
rockets to ATTACK Israel. 😡😡
Now they’d STARVE if the World didn’t feed them, they’re professional
refugees always wanting more. Their totally corrupt, incompetent
government are STEALING the AID and SELLING it for extortionate prices. 😡
They won’t help themselves, they’ve turned Gaza into a total eyesore and
death trap with 500 kms of tunnels hundreds of feet deep. This is going
to take a lot of money and a long time to correct- Hamas should be
FORCED to correct all the DAMAGE they caused using the BILLIONS which
they’ve received for years -which has gone to their leaders and their
war machine. They used CHILDREN to build tunnels and many died. Hamas
don’t care one iota about their own people.
Hamas STARTED a war on 7/10 killing innocent Israeli civilians in the
most awful ways imaginable and have killed most of their own dead
-bringing us to the brink of WW3.
IDF need to take the gloves off and go in ‘ HARD’ to Gaza/ flush out,
blow up tunnels - whatever it takes to rid them of this vile terrorist
scum. Enough is enough.
Hamas your days are NUMBERED.
Niels May
· Sep 10
Excellent post! You just “chapped some asses” and I’m sure the negative
comments that you receive will bear that out. The truth hurts but must
be stated. Thank you for your words.
Carol E Smith
· Sep 10
Thank you Niels. I’m just sick of the “ woe is me” plight of Gazans when
they’ve thrown away every single opportunity to be a beautiful,
successful place all because of the HATRED of their fellow man.
They don’t WANT peace- war is much more lucrative - all about MONEY.
The love of money is the root of ALL evil and will be their downfall.
shopping malls, all manner of water based activities, a world class golf
resort etc with work , money and a good life for all but instead Hamas
and their people CHOSE the path of PURE HATRED towards Israel in their
goal to annihilate Israel and all Jews.
Meanwhile Israel has become a First World Country who are forerunners in
many fields including education, engineering, medicine, agriculture, IT,
Science, Arts but their most admirable project was devising and
implementing ways to make a previously useless desert bloom to produce
all manner of products- fruit, vegetables, flowers , cereals etc . - not
only enough to sustain themselves but also to sell across the world. All
down to intelligence and sheer hard work.
Israel also has a very successful tourist industry attracting up to 4
Million visitors every year for the rich archaeological sites and
artefacts especially pertaining to Jews and Christians.
Wonderful to walk in the footsteps of Jesus from His lowly birth in a
stable in Bethlehem to follow His teaching, preaching and many miracles
all throughout Israel culminating with His Death and Resurrection in
Jerusalem.
A beautiful country which has flourished despite being totally
surrounded by enemies and being attacked literally every day on 3 fronts.
How hard it must be to have neighbours who HATE you so much they just
can’t tolerate your existence and will do ANYTHING to wipe you off the
face of the earth.
Muslims / Arabs already have over 60 states yet they won’t PERMIT Jews
to have just ONE homeland - Their ancient Homeland where there has been
a continuous Jewish presence for 3,500 years .
While the ONLY Jewish state has flourished , only about 6/8 Muslim
countries are wealthy and only because they have lakes of oil and other
natural resources while the rest are Third World nations at best with
corrupt governments, crime rates through the roof, poverty, food
shortages etc all with one common denominator- Islam.
Gaza , as mentioned above could’ve had it all but they have no work
ethic, no pride- Israel built greenhouses and other infrastructure
including hospitals, water plants etc so that the people could grow
enough produce to sell, doing an honest days work and being proud to be
able to look after their own families , but the minute Israel left ,
everything Israel had built was pulled down, dug up in order to make
rockets to ATTACK Israel. 😡😡
Now they’d STARVE if the World didn’t feed them, they’re professional
refugees always wanting more. Their totally corrupt, incompetent
government are STEALING the AID and SELLING it for extortionate prices. 😡
They won’t help themselves, they’ve turned Gaza into a total eyesore and
death trap with 500 kms of tunnels hundreds of feet deep. This is going
to take a lot of money and a long time to correct- Hamas should be
FORCED to correct all the DAMAGE they caused using the BILLIONS which
they’ve received for years -which has gone to their leaders and their
war machine. They used CHILDREN to build tunnels and many died. Hamas
don’t care one iota about their own people.
Hamas STARTED a war on 7/10 killing innocent Israeli civilians in the
most awful ways imaginable and have killed most of their own dead
-bringing us to the brink of WW3.
IDF need to take the gloves off and go in ‘ HARD’ to Gaza/ flush out,
blow up tunnels - whatever it takes to rid them of this vile terrorist
scum. Enough is enough.
Hamas your days are NUMBERED.
John Welch
· Sep 11
It was all there for them when the Israelis withdrew in 2005: power,
water, infrastructure, thousands of hectares of glasshouses - everything
they needed to thrive and prosper. They trashed the lot and made
themselves dependent on UNRWA. And still they plead that they are ‘victims’.
Hamp Maccoy
· Sep 11
And their “leaders” laugh all the way to the bank…with UN money of course!!
Profile photo for Sankt Panzerfaust (aka Panzer Knight)
Sankt Panzerfaust (aka Panzer Knight)
· Sep 6
Some of the comments on this post led me to post a larger overview of
all that really went on. Perhaps you will find it useful:
Do-gooders and virtue-signalling do more harm than good - on the example
of “Palestine”!
